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it on house speaker john boehner. >> the american people i don't think understand the house of representatives is operating without the house of representatives. it's being operated with a dictatorship of the speaker. john boehner seems to care more about keeping his speakership than about keeping the nation on firm financial footing. >> boehner's office's response? we've done our part. it's the senate democrats fall. but will the speaker call his members back before time runs out? >> at the last moment is the way these things normally happen. i think that can happen again. it just depends on putting egos aside a little bit and putting the best interests of the american people first. >> plus, keeping our kids safe, is arming educators the symptom or adding to the problem. >>> and can anyone beat sko brown? >>> good day. we're live in washington this afternoon. the lines of communication between the president, leaders of congress are open. whether those lines are used repeatedly over the next few days to reach a fiscal cliff deal is anybody's guess. joining me now for our daily fix, nbc's kelly
is a lever to try to get the senate to put something on the floor, and speaker boehner has been very clear it's the senate's turn to act. senate dems aren't taking that bait. they feel like they'll put something on the floor. if they don't have republican consent for it, they will have to pull it or see it go down in flames, and then republicans can point to their failure and say, hey, look, they failed, too. so democrats are wary of kind of falling into this trap that republicans they feel are trying to set for them, and so there's this kind of staring contest up here where everybody is looking at everybody and it's like watching a slow motion car crash. >> using that metaphor of a staring contest, can you see anybody blinking? everybody thought -- i guess they thought first of all that boehner would blink and he'd take on his tea party and say i only want 50 or 75 votes. i don't need you crazy people. i just need a few normal people, and we'll get 150 democrats, and we'll pass something. he didn't blink and do that. is there any chance he will before monday? >> i think there's a chance if h
within 48 hours. >> 85 republicans crossed the aisle to say yea. boehner turned a page in his statement saying, quote, now the focus turns to spending. the american people re-elected a republican majority in the house and we will use it to hold the president accountable for the balanced approach he promised. >> very rare a speaker and leader diverge. how much damage did the fiscal fight do to the speaker and the house and the senate? >> one thinks of the napoleon quote that you have don't interrupt the enemy when they're destroying themselves and you guys just waited around long enough and the republican party did that, didn't they, chris? >> a lot of republicans are faulting speaker boehner. they totally ignored him, they undercut him. >> you had an agreement last night. >> we have this totally dysfunctional senate and there are a dysfunctional congress and no wonder our back is up against the wall at midnight and we get some kind of -- this terrible deal that's thrown in our laps. >> so what was it like to be in the room when republicans voted on that deal? joining me now from capitol
a wonderful holiday because the president's is about to end. boehner and the boys? what's the rush? ♪ >> first of all, we want to say merry christmas. >> president obama is cutting short his christmas break with the fiscal cliff looming large. >> the fiscal cliff gets closer. congress now has six days left to make a deal. >> aloha, hawaii. >> to my republican colleagues, the ronald reagan model is if you get 80% of what you want, that's a pretty good day. >> they were this close. they were this close to a solution. >> he's going to get tax rate hikes. >> are we going over the cliff? >> i believe we are. >> be republican and be conservative and pass a bill that cuts tax. >> boehner has no control over his extreme right wing faction. >> should anybody's taxes be raised at this point? answer yes or no. >> no. no. ♪ >> we begin as president obama and the senate head back to washington set for one last effort to avert the first fiscal cliff. aloha means good-bye for the president as he packs bound for the white house tonight. the president cutting short his vacation leaving michelle and the girls
feel like i have been watching the same thing happen for two years since john boehner became the speaker. one deadline after another and has very little wiggle room. it makes his own members so unhappy. the vote for speaker for the next two years is tomorrow. does he even want this job anymore? >> it's a fair question after the hammering he has taken from folks in his own party and chris christie regarding the sandy relief bill. john boehner routinely said he never gets too high or low. he grew up the second of 12 children in a room where there was four kids to a room and he had to mop the floor of his father's bar at 5:00 in the morning every day. this is not an easy job. i think what you saw yesterday was what we on the hill know as a microcosm of leadership style and how it relates to the house of republican conference. it's fascinating that the world was able to see that boehner goes by this idea of letting the house work its will. he gave his members a chance to vent and venting almost nuked the deal that led to a plethora of angry e-mails in the finance community that s
it won't happen. boehner is at his weakest point ever. to push something through. doing that would weaken him even further. he still needs to be elected speaker on january 3rd. if you're boehner, you let this thing slide past january 3rd, getting yourself elected, and then do what you have to do. >> will he be stronger in. >> he won't be stronger. there will be about eight more democrats. >> really it's his caucus. >> but he'll be speaker again. if it does it, then you have a couple days to consider -- if he gets reelected and is speaker again, then it's much more trouble to unseed somebody who is already sitting there as the speaker than it is to stop him from running in the first place. >> if i could add to what ryan is saying, the only thing is he'll be proposing to his caucus a tax cut. everybody changes on january 3rd. you're no longer talking about some people getting a tax increase. harry reid and john boehner for instance said -- the speaker saying the senate should take it up. harry reid is speaking on the floor. let's take a listen. >> because americans' taxes are approaching th
to this point? taking you back to last week, you remember john boehner tried to get that alternative bill through the house. his own bill. he didn't have the support to do it. it fell apart. now things are in the senate and it will be up to harry reid and mitch connell and the president to try to come to a compromise to avoid the tax hikes and spending cuts that go into effect on the first of the year. president obama had been working with house speaker john boehner and trying to get a big deal that dealt with tax reform and deficit reduction. that fell apart and talks have largely been stalled this entire time. there was a lost pressure to get something done. we have seen some of the impacts of the fiscal cliff. consumers saying they have been more cautious with their holiday spending because of the uncertainty in washington. economists warn it could get worse and the markets could be foiled if we go over the fiscal cliff. taxes will go up for the average american by about $2,000 and could put us back into a recession. >> which nobody wants to see. kristen welker in hawaii. the president
it to the house of representatives where the president says the house speaker john boehner should put it on the floor, regardless if it gets the majority of the majority. that's the traditional way of doing things. the president said if any of the process fails, any of the steps along the way we outline, a senate agreement, vote in the senate, moving to the house, if it fails, the president wants a basic bill on the floor that sets those income levels at $250,000 above, to have everyone have their taxes rice rice. a lot of ifs and but, a flurry of last-minute activity, focused on the congressional leaders in the wes wing of the white house. >> like you said it will take a badda bing, badda boom to get this done. >>> joining me now is ed o'keefe and staff writer for "roll call," jonathan strong. thank you, both, for being here. i want to listen to more of what the president said on friday. i'll ask you about it on the other side. let's listen. >> i just had a good and constructive discussion at the white house with senate and house leadership about how to prevent this tax hike on the m
to receive a 48 hour heads up to return. john boehner said he refuses to call him back if there is no deal to vote on. he has given up hope and opting to work with senate democrats to push their bill from this past summer that extends rates on those less than $250,000. he failed to get his party behind a threshold and what are the odds this bill will pass. let's get the latest read on those not going on on capitol hill. luke, what is the latest? >> the latest is that there is aides i spoke to that think there is a 50-50 chance that the senate could get a small scale agreement on the floor the next few days and possibly be passed. that gets more and more unlikely as time goes by. harry reid is gauging interest with republican and democratic senators. he doesn't want to put anything on the floor that would not pass out of the senate. then he is asking republicans to vote for a tax increase for no reason. he wants assurances it would go down to the house floor and be gone for a vote. if that were to happen, you would see it passed out of the house with the democrats and as few as 30 or 40 rep
generations. >> reporter: house speaker john boehner was among the 85 republicans who voted for the bill. but in a statement, he promised to focus on a future deal that does cut spending. he said, "the american people re-elected a republican majority in the house, and we will use it in 2013 to hold the president accountable for the balanced approach he promised." many of the other republicans who voted "yes" were committee chairmen, retiring lawmakers or members who lost their seats in the november elections. congressman dave camp of michigan chairs the ways and means committee. >> republicans and the american people are getting something really important-- permanent tax relief. as big as that is-- and it's only the first step when it comes to taxes, this legislation settles the level of revenue we should bring in. >> reporter: beyond the income tax provisions, the bill also reinstates clinton-era limits on exemptions and deductions for higher-income americans. and tax rates will rise from 35% to 40% for estates worth $5 million or more. congress also agreed to extend unemployment insura
hard for a deal, gregg. gregg: has the bickering between reid and boehner sort of poisoned the negotiations past the point that, you know, maybe this meeting will help at all? >> reporter: it may have because it's really, we've seen tensions escalate ever since before christmas when john boehner was not able to get a deal through the house where he has a very strong republican majority. he had a rebellion amongst some of his fellow conservatives. that is what held it up. senator harry reid as you say was very rough going directly after boehner yesterday. take a listen. >> the american people i don't think understand the house of representatives is operating without the house of representatives. it's being operated with a dictatorship of the speaker, not allowing the vast majority of the house of representatives to get what they want. >> reporter: the word dictatorship not sitting well at speaker's office of the as you can imagine his spokesman putting out a tough statement of his own saying quote, senator reid should talk less and legislate more. the house already passed le
boehner. they will blame the president. he has political capital that could evaporate. i'm not sure if he gets what he wants -- that is not how american politics necessarily works. host: what led to this meeting? harry reid was sounding pessimistic early in the day. then john boehner calling the house back sunday evening with a vote scheduled after 6:00 p.m., setting up a late sunday session or a lot of fireworks on monday. guest: the redskins-cowboys game is on sunday night. each side staked out a public position it had to stake out. use it at the end there's a sentence saying, but we will talk or negotiate. nothing unusual here to me. i think right now they are doing what they have to do publicly. we do not know what those people in the room at the white house are going to say and that is the key. host: the speaker will attend this meeting. he said the house has passed legislation to avert the fiscal cliff. now the senate must act. senator reid said it is up to the house. explain what is going on. guest: i cannot read john boehner's mind. let's say the senate takes up something where yo
voted on but boehner a company said this opportunity help folks. it doesn't help anyone. 8:00 p.m. on fox business network. we march to a different drummer. fair and balanced drummer. find out the story you don't know. word from the s&p rating agency that maintains the rating on the u.s.. they didn't get a lot done and won't effect the outlook now. no tipping of the hand of what moody's will do. but with the debt and spike over the spending cut the triple-a thing i wouldn't bet on. >> eric: hello. i'm eric bolling with kimberly guilfoyle, bob beckel, dana perino, greg gutfeld. it's 5:00 in new york city. this is "the five." ♪ ♪ >> eric: thanks for joining us for our first show of 2013. my goal this year -- stop it, greg -- is have more fun than any other show on cable news. plen of that for you today. in illinois strip clubs now charge $3 a head and the money goes to charity. true story. hollywood celebs put out a psa on gun control. beckel says diet and for size will kill you. we'll explain that one the clowns in d.c. held us hostage for three months over the fiscal cliff.
ago when speaker boehner had a plan to raise taxes on those earning more than $1 million, the feeling was that he had about 190 republican votes. if the will of 190 holes, then you'll get a -- then you'll get an oath -- if the 190 holds, then you will get a majority. it again, one thing we have learned in this game is that nothing is assured. host: now there is work to be done for this 113th congress. what is the dynamic there? guest: the democrats picked up a few seats in the senate. it is 55-45 at the moment. if john kerry is confirmed as secretary of state, then it goes to 54. democrats have a little more strength. the president gets inaugurated january 20, 21st. then we are back to fighting over the debt limit, the sequester, the continuing solutions. it goes on and on. host: give us the highlights of what was approved by the senate this morning. guest: the bush era tax rates continue for everybody except those individuals earning over $400,000 and families earning over $450,000. they want to bring the levels back to 39.6%. in addition, several other things. the alternative minimu
like had been on the table in so-called plan a, the $4 trillion debt deal he and john boehner had been talking about for weeks. so we might see a small bit of spending cuts just to stave off the sequester, the massive amount of spending cuts that will kick in at the beginning of the year to harm the pentagon and other agencies. if they are getting anything, there are low expectations but if they get anything it will be a very small deal, something much smaller than they have been talking about for weeks, jon. jon: there aren't too many people these meetings. so a little hard to get an assessment, what is your idea, what is your best, yeah, assessment i guess how things are between some of these leaders? >> reporter: they have gotten pretty tense the last couple of days as they have come back from the christmas holiday. we saw yesterday senate majority leader harry reid basically accusing john boehner of running a deck tate toreship, that was his word in the house of representatives. reid piled on a little bit late yesterday afternoon and senate republican leader mitch mcconnell respond
connell and john boehner representing the republicans. brianna keilar is live from washington. is anybody optimistic that a deal could be done today around a table? >> i will tell you the optimism is sort of sinking. senate majority leader harry reid said he doesn't see how it can get done by january 1st. we heard from president obama before he left from his vacation that he was optimistic. logistically the white house will tell you it's possible. when you listen to what you're hearing some of these congressional leaders say, there's a lot of posturing laying blame to the other side if we do go over the cliff. take a listen. >> republicans are not about to write a blank check for anything senate democrats put forward because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. >> we are here in washington working while the members of the house of representatives are out watching movies, watching their kids play soccer, basketball, doing all kinds of things. they should be here. >> now, house speaker john boehner is saying the senate needs to just take up a house pass bill that has already passed t
't filibuster over here that he would support and that boehner would support if it were reasonable. but right now we haven't heard anything. i don't know and it's none of my business, i guess, although i am very curious, if the speaker and the majority leader, the republican leader over here are even talking. i mean, what's going on here? mr. president, you can't legislate with yourself. we have nobody to work with, to compromise. that's what legislation is all about, is the ability to compromise. the republicans in the house have left town. the negotiations between the president and the speaker have fallen apart as they have for the last 3 1/2 years. we've tried mightily to get something done. i'll just go over what the little drill here, mr. president, to remind everyone how unreasonable the republicans have been. senator conrad and jeb gray came up with a proposal. commission would be appointed, appoint back to us, no filibusters, no amendments, yes or no. and we did a great job and we closed two bases over two different cycles saving the country hundreds and billions of dollars here. so w
. this is going to be in their hands at this point. john boehner is like we've got to look at things. it's not going to happen overnight. >> it seems like a couple of weeks ago but it was about a week ago when the house of representatives voted on boehner's plan b which would have set the threshold at $1 million. now they're going to vote on it at $450,000. you've got to figure a lot of republicans aren't going to go along. >> what exactly happened? we're going to go over this in detail with chad who saw the play-by-play and was e-mailing us the play-by-play. mitch mcconnell called up -- bypassed senator reid who never got back to him on saturday and said can i speak to the vice president, joe biden? we're used to cutting deals together. like it or not, these are the two that hammered it out. they put it together. when it was all said and done, this is what joe biden had to say about how this deal actually came to fruition. >> what was said there was kind of hard to hear. what was your selling point? biden said: me. it's interesting, the senators, the democrats all got together late yes
and lost his career in a trumped up, fake scandal that rick santorum and john boehner created in the '90s. he lost his career, reputation, put on trial, exonerated but spent the last 20 years of his life totally unappreciated and died this year. he deserved a little bit of regular cognition, joe early. >> phyllis diller. amazing trailblazing comedian. >> she was. >> alex, sorry to see you go? >> i have two. george mcgovern and rob gi shank gl guard. very different men. >> i'm very sorry to see go whitney houston. >> yeah. >>> we're going to be back with more of our "last word holiday show." ♪ smoothes, lifts, defies? red jars are all the same right? wrong! you need three uses of a $15 cream to equal the moisturizing power of one use of regenerist microsculpting cream. seems not all red jars are created equal. olay regenerist. we don't let frequent heartburn come between us and what we love. so if you're one of them people who gets heartburn and then treats day after day... block the acid with prilosec otc and don't get heartburn in the first place! [ male announcer ] one pill each morni
mitch mcconnell, house speaker john boehner and house democratic leader nancy pelosi met at the white house yesterday afternoon with the president and vice president. here's where things stand right now. the senate leaders are meeting aiming to avoid tax hikes. and they may vote on a deal sunday or perhaps on monday. jessica yellin is our chief white house correspondent. lisa day jar dayne is on capitol hill. the president used his bully pulpit to reinforce the idea that senators need to get busy. so let's listen. >> the american people are watching what we do here. obviously, their patience is already thin. this is deja vu all over again. america wonders why it is that in this town for some reason, you can't get stuff done in an organized timetable, why everything always has to wait till the last minute. we're now at the last minute. and the american people are not going to have any patience for a politically self-inflicted wound to our economy. not right now. >> so jessica, you were in the room for the president's remarks. on a scale of 1 to 10, let's measure the anger perhaps that
and the senate is coming back. the house is not. house speaker john boehner staying in ohio. he says some contact, but communication is no substitute for senate action. it's all in the senate. >> juliet: all righty. log on to our web site for our after the show show because we're going to be giving you lots of gossip and secrets that you don't hear. >> kelly: really? >> juliet: yeah. >> clayton: that's news. i'll make sure i'm there. gregg: fox news alert. millions at the mercy of mother nature this morning after a massive storms slams the northeast bringing snow, rain, high winds, icy road conditions. more than 50 flights have been canceled today following the grounding of more than 1700 the day before. coming up in minutes we'll go live to anna kooiman live in scranton, pennsylvania where folks are trying to dig out from more than a foot of snow. but first, bad weather making be delaying lawmakers plans to get back to the negotiating table in washington, d.c. good morning, i'm gregg jarrett in "america's newsroom.". patti ann: freight to be with you again, gregg. i'm patti ann browne in for mar
there is no sense of urgency. >> the entire house coming back sunday night. >> how is john boehner going to get the votes. he couldn't get the votes for his plan b. >> a week ago we were closer than we have been before. >> do they presume the voters are that dumb? >> they passed it. >> they did it noing that they are unable to make deals on anything. >> how about complete chaos? >> there ought to be a new rule in congress. >> you cannot create anymore artificial crisis. >> tim geithner wrote a letter to congress. we are going to hit the debt ceiling. it never ends. >> happy new year's america. ♪ 29 and a half hours that is how long congress will have to avoid going over the fiscal curve on sunday night. >> if we go over the cliff, mr. president, the house of representatives as we speak with four days left after today with the first of the year, aren't here. i can't mamg they are out wherever they r and we are here trying to get something done. >> president obama called leaders last night and tomorrow afternoon we will meet with the speaker and mix mcconnel and harry reid to see if they can av
, good morning. it's a new day and a new standoff. this time, house speaker john boehner is hinting he won't bring house members back to town until the senate comes up with a passable plan. as president obama leaves his tropical retreat in hawaii for a wintry washington, tension on capitol hill is on high. >> i don't see how you could hammer out any kind of a grand bargain or large plan involving tax reform and entitlement changes in a matter of days. >> reporter: serious doubt is setting in. even starbucks is getting involved, writing "come together" on its cups. speaker john boehner says he's sitting this round out after failing to get enough house republicans to support his own plan just before christmas. >> i think that boehner is being controlled, unfortunately, by the right wing. >> reporter: that leaves it up to majority leader harry reid and the rest of the senate to find a passable solution. aides say reid's plan would avoid tax increases for people making less than $250,000, eliminate some big spending cuts and restore unemployment benefits. >> i think you're likely to see a
war in a weekend. >> dave: he can get it done but there is still john boehner and the house republicans. i'm not modestly optimistic. anything through the house at this point. >> juliet: like lindsey gram said two days ago when you call a meeting publicly in washington it usually turns out to be the dog and pony show or theater basically. honestly calling at this late hour. they met for an hour. what could really go down in that type of meeting? things can go down but really, it's just at the edge. they waited so long. they all went on their vacations. >> clayton: here are some things on the table to answer those questions perhaps. generalities. we don't know what's been tabled. democrats still strong about this. they say they were, yeah, here is -- take a look at this. keeping tax cuts for those making $250,000 a year or less. we know that's there. that may shift because we are hearing from republicans they may be willing to go as high as $500,000 a year. of the extended. >> dave: that's my guess. >> extending unemployment tax benefits for 2 million folks still unemployed.
boehner will be re-elected. there will be a different house of representatives. however, still a republican majority but a small er majorit. boehner has a newly affirmed position and perhaps the dynamic is a bit different. but, you know, then again maybe it will be the same as it's been the last couple of years. >> richard, you know what i think bothers some people bothers me. it's that there is a small segment it seems of the republican caucus in the house of representatives who were unable to accept the results of the election in 2008 and steamed to continue to be unable to accept the results of the election in 2012. thus, they feel they have a license to hold the country hostage because they don't agree with two presidential elections, which is truly, truly if you think about it enough, which i choose not to, is rather bothersome. >> it's bothersome, and it doesn't fit their own agenda. in addition to object structure things they want to keep taxes down for most americans. it's not just about the tea party republicans, okay? the republican leadership, mitch mcconnell and joh
was, a decision was made by john boehner and other house leaders to only go in the direction of amending the senate bill if they would have the 217, 218 votes necessary in order to actually get the amendment through the house, pass the bill with an amendment, and send it back to the senate. members coming out of a republican meeting indicated they do not have the votes. they will put a clean vote on the floor on the senate bill. >> it is being reported now that the chair of the house rules committee is moving ahead with the meeting time at 8:10, which is right now. an emergency meeting of the rules committee. he is not waiting for cameras to get put into place we are unable to bring the start of that. . we will keep you updated. is there tension between speaker boehner and eric kanter during this process? >> as we have seen, there has been talk of that in the media. every time it comes up, as it has come up again tonight, people are quick to reflect reports from the caucus meeting this afternoon were that the two walked in to gather, they are trying to avoid anything the caus
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't raise taxes and we shouldn't raise them at all but can't do more than john boehner's plan b, and didn't go to a vote. >> one for million. icle >> it would raise you billion in revenue. they were not for it in the first place but maybe get something through if obama willing to cut. obama administration said if you pass it in the house and september passed it, obama would veto it anyway. they are so far apart. this i am flying back from hawaii and see if i can bring them back together. they are far apart as they have been. >> kelly: why are they having the meeting? because of the talk and rhetoric is ramping up and the agreement is going down. i mean, for example, senate majority leader harry reid is name calling and calling john boehner a dictator . this is what he had to say. >> the american people i don't think the house representative is operating without the house of representative. it is being operated with a dictatorship of the speaker not allowing the vast majority of the house and representatives to get what they want. >> that sounds ridiculous f. it was a dictatorship boehner
their lines in the sand. john boehner, house speaker told his troops yesterday that he would not go in there and cut any deals. mitch mcconnell is going in there, he spends all morning talking on the floor with his members in the middle of a bunch of votes over there, he's taking their thoughts about what they can expect over there. but there is no reason to think that there is going to be any big breakthrough here. the two sides are just too far apart and too entrenched. is essentially a last-ditch effort to try to basically see if something gets done. heather: talk to me more about that. what we are seeing is a plan c. extending tax cuts, unemployment benefits for people who are going to lose it at the end of the year, and laying the groundwork for growth and deficit reduction. that sounds like tamino guaranteed significant cuts either. >> that's right. part of the problem there for republicans is what they are giving him. they are giving up the tax leverage they would have for bigger and broader tax reform for next year. part of the reason why i don't think we get a deal out of l
of house speaker john boehner butler county, ohio, currently under a blizzard warning. house republican leaders holding a conference call earlier today on the fiscal cliff, but so far they have not yet called on lawmakers to return to capitol hill. but they have said they will give a 48 hour warning if they plan to do that the white house saying the president is cutting his holiday vacation in hawaii short to return to d.c. to work on a deal to try to stop those automatic tax hikes and deep spending cuts from kicking in on january 1st. and if they don't reach a deal before then, many economists say we will dip back into a recession. i had henly house republican leaders didn't have a lot of new information for their lawmakers. they would have 48 hour notice if they are needed to pray back to washington from various districts around the country. that tells us they are being noncommittal at this point because they frankly do not know whether or not there will be a deal to avert the fiscal cliff. now, after that conference call. the house speaker john boehner, his number two eric cantor the
day. >>brian: why wouldn't they be. when you went to bed, john boehner served up two possibilities. one you could vote on the senate bill which passed overwhelmingly. two, the house might amend the senate bill and add a bunch of spending. he didn't have enough votes for that entree and in the end a whole bunch of republicans voted for the senate bill, although a whole bunch of republicans voted against the senate bill. it has passed. >>juliet: pretty amazing all the drama over the last 48 hours as opposed to nothing happening over the 48 years. let's take a breakdown. here's a look at how we break down the numbers. $622 billion is what we're seeing in new tax hikes, just $15 billion in spending cuts. we'll get more on that later. $1 spending cut for every $41 in tax hikes. that is pretty much what it amounts to. >>brian: the dollar in spending cuts for every $41 in tax hikes that is for the first year. in ten years it is going to be $1 worth of spending cuts for every $10 of tax hikes. for a lot of republicans, they go that is a lousy deal. >>brian: we're basically reviewing the sa
be controlled by john boehner. so you still have that divided congress. but the calculation is not, you know, a numerical one. it's the idea that if they go home -- first if they go home for christmas break, they'd feel the pressure, but it doesn't seem like that's coming. if they go over the cliff and they do mess with the debt ceiling, that people are going to get freaked and spooked because you'll start hearing stories about social security recipients facing the prospect of smaller checks from the government, unemployment insurance completely dried up, payroll tax cut is a big thing. your paycheck is going to start showing more is taken out of it for the payroll tax. and that will, in turn, cause the type of pressure on the new income in congress to get something done. it's interesting that we led off with kay bailey hutchison who's retiring, doesn't have a lot of the political pressures that others have. she said let's make a deal. her prediction, probably the right one, they're going to go home. suddenly once it passes, obama wim introduce his own package which will look like what he's
and realize that obama is crazy. john boehner is also crazy. none of them have any inkling, let alone a loyalty or fidelity, toward what would be good toward the american people. it is all about them. obama is going to retire in four years. he is looking at making millions of dollars on a speech circuit after that. john boehner is going to become a lobbyist. none of them care. host: we are going to leave it there. we have some items from . a couple of folks up in weighing in on facebook. -- a couple of folks have been weighing in on facebook. back to the telephones. ruth on the line for democrats. caller: they talk about the fiscal clef, but they are not really interested in fiske's -- fixing the fiscal cliff. there are interested in their own party. they have been against the president from the beginning, so they are not going to change anything. they do not want to help america. what people are they for? the people have spoken, but they do not ever listen to the people. what people are the working for? host: james in new york as a deadline for independents. caller: i just want to p
of republican and democratic leaders in the senate, and we thank speaker boehner for bringing this legislation to the floor. public we can duplicate a strong bipartisan vote that was achieved in the united states senate. why is that important? because the american people told us in the election that they wanted us to work together. they have their differences, too. they understand this agreement. they also understand compromise. that is what this legislation represents. the previous speaker said he was voting for the bill for what was not in it. that is an interesting approach. we can judge be legislation we vote on for what is in it, or vote against it for what is not in it. at some point you strike a balance. you balance the equities -- where you come out in terms of making a choice? i hope the choice the american people will make tonight will reflect the well and keep the call of the american people to work together and follow the lead of the senate with a strong bipartisan support. what do they want us to do? what are the priorities? they want us to create jobs. they want us to grow the ec
on the democratic side. house speaker john boehner, mitch mcconnell representing the republicans. brianna keilar live from washington. what do we expect to happen today? any new offers from the president or house speaker? >> we don't know. right now, all eyes on the senate to see what senate majority leader harry reid can cobble together to get some republican support. technically, it's still possible to come to an agreement. that said, politically is a different story, and the prospects for coming to a deal are starting to dim. right now, we're hearing a whole lot of the blame game. a lot of public posturing from both sides as they prepare for the possibility of going over the cliff. let's listen to harry reid. >> we are here in washington working while members of the house of representatives are out watching movies and watching their kids play soccer and basketball and doing all kinds of things. they should be here. >> now, the speaker of the house, john boehner, sort of retorting to reid, ali. in a conference call he said the leaders should do more -- or pardon me. less talking and more legis
of market sense, then you're losing. if senator reid says something and speaker boehner says something else, nothing fundamental has changed. white stock investors are buying and selling based on political speeches is beyond me. host: what index will you be watching? here is a headline from the wall street journal -- what index will you be watching? guest: think consumer confidence is the big indicator. there are a number of ways to measure it. if you go back to the august debt ceiling deal, i think people did not even realize in washington, but you look at the data, he saw a major drop in consumer confidence around the time and it became clear that politicians were arguing and squabbling and were not coming to terms. i think that is a severe problem in this recession because consumer demand is not strong enough to propagate a strong economic recovery. anything that dampened consumer demand is a problem. watching these politicians not getting together, even if they get a deal, the damage there is down. you see your leaders not being able to take simple steps. the deal they are talking about
, tongue in cheek and he's a comedian. >> there's a photo of mcconnell boehner. >> al-qaeda isn't in the same league as congress when it comes to terrorizing americans and links to this other article and the other article goes on to elaborate on the tweet and presumably taking the headline from the piece and linking to it, but dave brings up an interesting point when you tweet out something like this, and while retweets and things aren't your personal viewpoint, they could be viewed as such. and people say he's retweeting a link. >> juliet: the article, it's humorous article basically al-qaeda the official statements from al-qaeda saying, look, we're going to back off terrorizing you the united states because your congress people do enough during the so-called fiscal cliff showdown convinced the terrorists they had been outdone and said the idea of holding the entire nation hostage with a clock ticking until the ends of the year-- >> it wasn't terribly funny at all. but to dave's point when you're tweeting out links to articles like that, he didn't say here is a funny piece with
not see the republican -- john boehner is working with the president to do anything. they do not do anything. they have -- they do not work with the president. i am wondering, why does he not work for the american people that they elected to do the american people business, not their business. host: thank you for calling. a live picture of the u.s. capitol. 7:23 in washington. some heavy rain and perhaps some snow. a. when terry mix are expecting in town. we mention that because the president is heading back into town. the senate and white house -- the senate and house are due back tomorrow. this is an politico. there is another piece of this morning that says the house member elect is also interested in the peak in the seat -- adapter the seat. springfield, va., lewis, an independent. caller: good morning. you could consider me a little bit pessimistic. i am actually looking at it as realistically as possible. i have a degree in macroeconomics. i believe that they all should be -- we should institute term limits on all of them. maybe a six-year term limit. they're all thinking of r
. >> they blame house republicans since john boehner hasn't been able to get them a deal to raise taxes. the name calling is getting ugly. >> american people don't understand the house of representative is operating without the house of representatives. it is being operated with a dictatorship of the speaker not allowing the vast majority of the council to representatives to get what they want. >>> and while it's true that the senate controlled democrats is working this week, they are not working on fiscal cliff matters and the house won't even be back to work sunday two-days before the end of year deadline. theoretically these guys have time to get something done here. it is also possible at today's meeting at the white house may be simply window dressing. >> see what happens ten hours from now. time now to take a look at who is talking and this morning we are hearing from charles krauthammer. >> last night on hannity he was talking about the looming fiscal cliff and the president's approach to negotiations. krauthammer giving his take on why a deal has not been reached yet. >> it has been very
hutchison says she's looking for compromise, alluding to house speaker john boehner's plan "b" that was met with stiff opposition from his own party. >> i think $250,000 is too low a threshold. a lot of working people who are couples would exceed that, and i don't think we need that kind of shock to the system. however, i've talked to some of my democratic colleagues, and they are saying maybe in the $400,000 or $500,000 category we could set a benchmark. i do think it is essential that we start talking about what amount can be passed on a bipartisan basis, because you know, i'm one who believes you shouldn't tax anyone right now. i would have supported plan "b." >> according to a gallup poll, americans are less optimistic that washington will strike a deal. 50% now believe an agreement is likely, an eight-point drop from earlier this month. president obama, meanwhile, will be back in washington today after cutting short his vacation in hawaii. he'll be joined on air force one, or he is joined on air force one right now -- they're in the air, actually -- by hawaii's lieutenant governor bria
. >> harry reid is blaming house speaker john boehner for the stalemate and predicts new deal will happen before the end of the year. house republicans have rejected any compromise where the wealthiest americans no longer get a tax cut. others are still optimistic. >> these deals come together at the last minute. to paraphrase ronald reagan, there has got to be a pony here someplace. >> i would urge the speaker of the house to call is back in session, to do what america expects us to do -- address the challenges, find solutions. >> americans have a lot to lose without a deal. taxes would jump an average of $2,400 for families making between $50,000 and $70,000 a year. the congressional budget office predicts the nation could lose jobs. house members will be coming back to washington on sunday to try to get a deal done by midnight on monday. wbal tv-11ews. >> now that the ravens are officially champions of the afc north division, retailers are trying to cash in on the success. >> yes, there are a lot of things out there. we caught up with one screen printer in colombia. they came up with a
and democrats about how to avoid going over the cliff. before the christmas break, speaker john boehner was unable to get enough support from respects to pass his plan and help said it was up to the white house and the senate to avert the cliff. so now harry reid is believed to be crafting a plan of his own. it's expected to extend bush-era tax cuts. it would also include short-term spending cuts instead of the massive cuts that would occur if there is no deal. it would also patch up the alternative minimum tax that will hit even more middle class families and schedule a drop off for doctors. >> if republicans do give in and support the deal being put together by harry reid that deal is expected to be far less favorable than the potential deal they had been working on with president obama. >> republican strategist, frank luntz has been talking with voters, what is the chance you see this becomes the new compromise? >> i'm not sure if hooert side is watching very closely. we did a survey and we got two interesting questions. one that's very tough on republicans. we a
and john boehner are both frosty saying it's in the other guy's court saying to avert the largest tax hike in history and reid saying it's time for house republicans to put middle class families first. >> if we go past no deal, the markets are likely to decline in a significant way and involve most americans and they don't want to have themselves blamed for that. >> reporter: already stocks have dropped three days in a row over fiscal cliff fears. from wall street to main street, it is building. >> both parties to are to blame if they don't come up with something. >> we are really in what amounts to a fiscally irresponsible position trying to please everyone and please no one at all. >> reporter: even starbucks tries to hand out advice writing "come together" on every cup. >> reporter: washington could use a warm cup of coffee on a morning like this. complica complicating conversations going forward. treasury secretary, timothy geithner says on the 31st, the u.s. will hit the credit card limit, the debt limit and will have to take extraordinary measures to pay its bills. >> peter alexander
, that speaker boehner doesn't control the far right of his caucus. this is the reality check, folks, 98% is agreed upon. 98% of americans shouldn't have their taxes raised. we're being held hostage by debate over the top 2%. that's a partisan divide. every american stands to see their taxes raised in three days if they can't come to a deal. >> you agree they will probably come to a small deal. but the bigger issue could happen a couple of months from now, and that that's the debt ceiling. that's kicking the can down the road again. >> that's right. we're going to be here again. remember the debt ceiling debacle a year and a half ago. that led to the downgrading of our credit. and the s&p blamed an atmosphere of partisanship. but the ration questions americans have to ask themselves, is if we couldn't get anything done in the lame duck congress, after the election, politicians will be free to reason together. why should it be any different or any better in a new congress? >> what does it say about the state of our politics? that these elected officials, manufactured a crisis and can't ge
in a trumped up fake scandal that rick santorum and john boehner created in the '90s, a house banking scandal. he lost his career, put on trial, exonerated, but he spent the last 20 years unappreciated. and i think he deserves recognition, joe early. >> phyllis diller. >> they were key makers. >> and rose to fame in the same era, i am very sorry to see go whitney houston. we're going to be back with more of our last word holiday show. ♪ ♪ ♪ phyllis, phyll . >>> welcome back to "the last word," holiday party. our new category is the biggest surprise of 2012. karen finney, what was the biggest surprise of 2012. >> that we were able to call the election around 11:00. >> i actually thought it would happen, by the time we got to california, closing time we would know. >> i really thought it would be a much bigger mess, and i didn't think the president would be able to win without us having a debacle in florida, and thankfully we didn't. >> joy reed, what was the big surprise? >> the big surprise was that mitt romney chose paul ryan as his running mate. he is the right guy? but as a democrat,
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